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McCain Challenges Obama To Delay First Debate

LINDA WERTHEIMER, Host:

Joining us now is NPR news analyst, Juan Williams. Good morning, Juan.

JUAN WILLIAMS: Good morning, Linda.

WERTHEIMER: Now, that was a pretty dramatic move by Senator McCain yesterday. Why do you think he did it?

WILLIAMS: Well, high stakes, Linda. It’s a big risk by Senator McCain, but it’s a bet that he had to place on his campaign. You think back, he placed a huge bet when he nominated, or selected, Sarah Palin to be his vice presidential running mate. That bet paid off for him. And now after the polls showed him losing support as the economic crisis has erupted over the last week, Senator McCain’s campaign felt a real need to change the narrative from a discussion about policy, blaming the GOP for lack of oversight and regulation, to a focus more on character, Linda, leadership, experience in the midst of crisis.

And they hope that John McCain’s history will fit that bill, rather than going back to discussions about whether or not he was sufficiently taking a leadership position with regard to the coming crisis. He sees that conversation as one that has been sinking his campaign.

WERTHEIMER: Senator Obama suggested that they should go ahead and have the debate, that it was important to have debates. What about that countermove?

WILLIAMS: Well, you know, I think that right now Senator Obama’s countermove is to make Senator McCain look like he’s impetuous, that he’s having a difficult time in the campaign, and as a result trying to inject presidential politics into the discussion of a bailout package. So, at best right now, what Senator Obama is saying is, look, you know what? Both of us are in a position to do more than one thing at a time – which is what you heard in David Greene’s report – but also, I think, pointing out that they’re in, you know, at most, in position as cheerleaders for a quick settlement. And both are calling for some kind of bailout package to pass Congress.

But I think McCain has an especially difficult task here because he’s trying to make sure that this discussion does not extend into October and continue to drag down his campaign. Last week, you know, when he came out and said that the fundamentals of the economy are strong, that really was a problem for his campaign. He had to be right back out and correct himself immediately. And the staff over at the McCain campaign likes to paint him as the kind of person who headed the Commerce Committee. But the fact is, by his own admission, he doesn’t have a lot of expertise in this area. So that’s why he’s trying to change the tone of the conversation about the entire thing by making it an issue of coming to Washington – these two men who really had not been involved in the negotiations – to try to get something done and force Congress’ hand.

WERTHEIMER: So, does this meeting at the White House help McCain?

WILLIAMS: Well, it does. In fact, what you have here is an effort to say this is above politics, this is a bipartisan effort, it’s a time of urgency, the American economy in great risk, and we need the kind of leadership that would come from the two presidential candidates. So I don’t think there’s any doubt President Bush’s move yesterday helped to reinforce Senator McCain’s call for all – for the candidates to come to Washington and for the debate to be delayed.

WERTHEIMER: Very quickly, Juan. In Congress, there are a lot of Republicans who don’t like this bill and have – they’re estimating it doesn’t have very many votes on the Hill. So, do the Republicans have to fall in behind McCain?

WILLIAMS: Well, they haven’t so far, Linda. In fact, I think it’s a Republican opposition that’s been the real problem. That’s why I think President Bush made a speech last night. And the real risk for McCain would be that Obama and Democrats could say it’s Republicans who have failed to follow through at a moment of crisis and deliver on a bailout bill.

WERTHEIMER: Thanks very much. NPR news analyst, Juan Williams, thank you. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.

Juan Williams, one of America's leading journalists, is a news analyst, appearing regularly on NPR's Morning Edition. Knowledgeable and charismatic, Williams brings insight and depth — hallmarks of NPR programs — to a wide spectrum of issues and ideas.

From 2000-2001, Williams hosted NPR's national call-in show Talk of the Nation. In that role, he brought the program to cities and towns across America for monthly radio "town hall" meetings before live audiences. The town hall meetings were a part of "The Changing Face of America," a year-long NPR series focused on how Americans are dealing with rapid changes in society and culture as the United States enters the 21st century. The series, supported by a grant from the Pew Charitable Trusts, involves monthly pieces airing on Morning Edition and All Things Considered, as well as Talk of the Nation.

Williams is the author of the critically acclaimed biography Thurgood Marshall: American Revolutionary, which was released in paperback in February 2000. He is also the author of the nonfiction bestseller Eyes on the Prize: America's Civil Rights Years, 1954-1965, the companion volume to the critically acclaimed television series. This Far by Faith: Stories from the African American Religious Experience appeared in February 2003. This book was the basis for a six-part public broadcasting TV documentary that aired in June 2003. In 2004, Williams became involved with AARP's Voices of Civil Rights project, leading a veteran team of reporters and editors in the production of My Soul Looks Back in Wonder: Voices of the Civil Rights Experience. The book presents the harrowing and haunting eyewitness accounts of some 50 activists who served as foot soldiers and field generals in the Civil Rights Movement. In his 2006 book, Enough, Williams makes the case that while there is still racism, it is way past time for black Americans to open their eyes to the “culture of failure” that exists within their community.

During his 21-year career at The Washington Post, Williams served as an editorial writer, op-ed columnist, and White House reporter. He has won an Emmy award for TV documentary writing and won widespread critical acclaim for a series of documentaries including “Politics - The New Black Power.” Articles by Williams have appeared in magazines ranging from Newsweek, Fortune, and The Atlantic Monthly to Ebony, Gentlemen's Quarterly, and The New Republic.

Williams continues to be a contributing political analyst for the Fox News Channel and a regular panelist on Fox News Sunday. He has also appeared on numerous television programs, including Nightline, Washington Week in Review, Oprah, CNN's Crossfire (where he frequently served as co-host), and Capitol Gang Sunday.

A graduate of Haverford College, Williams received a B.A. in philosophy in 1976. Currently, he sits on a number of boards, including the Haverford College Board of Trustees, the Aspen Institute of Communications and Society Program, Washington Journalism Center and the New York Civil Rights Coalition.

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