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Arizona Governor Issues Executive Order Following NPR Investigation

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For years the pharmaceutical industry has worked to influence how money is spent by state Medicaid programs. That came to light last month in our investigation of the committees that determine which drugs states cover with Medicaid. We found out that 3 out of 5 doctors who serve on those panels receive payments from drug companies. Arizona’s governor was listening, and he’s now changing the setup in his state. NPR’s Alison Kodjak reports.

ALISON KODJAK, BYLINE: Arizona Governor Doug Ducey says NPR’s joint investigation with the Center for Public Integrity opened his eyes to the potential conflicts of interest on his state’s Medicaid drug committee.

DOUG DUCEY: When we learned that a member of Arizona’s Pharmacy & Therapeutics Committee had received compensation – as much as $700,000 from drug companies – it allowed us to ask questions.

KODJAK: According to our investigation, that doctor, Mohamed Ramadan, got more compensation from pharmaceutical companies than any other doctor serving on a Medicaid drug committee across the U.S. The committees are instrumental in determining which prescription drugs get preferred treatment by state Medicaid programs, which can mean lots of revenue for their manufacturers. The revelation spurred Ducey to action.

DUCEY: We came to the decision of making a clear choice here of someone who’s receiving this amount of compensation has a conflict of interest. So we thought removing the board member was the best course of action.

KODJAK: Ramadan didn’t respond to several calls and emails from NPR and the Center for Public Integrity. And Ducey didn’t stop with one doctor. Last week, he also issued an executive order requiring all committee members to receive conflict of interest training and to abstain from voting or even discussing medications if they have a financial relationship with the manufacturer. The order also requires people who speak at committee hearings to disclose any ties they have to drug companies.

DUCEY: And we just believe that decisions about health care should be made in the best interests of Arizonans without the appearance of undue influence.

KODJAK: Liz Whyte, the reporter who led the investigation at the Center for Public Integrity, says Arizona is not alone.

LIZ WHYTE: There are at least 38 states that have doctors on their Medicaid drug committees who’ve gotten more than $1,000 from pharma companies during the 4 1/2-year period that we looked at.

KODJAK: And the follow-up from our investigation wasn’t limited to Arizona. Here’s Liz Whyte again.

WHYTE: A doctor on the New York drug Medicaid committee resigned because he didn’t disclose accurately his ties to drugmakers. And an official in New York divested his stock of pharmaceutical companies due to a potential perceived conflict of interest.

KODJAK: Walid Gellad says financial conflicts of interest are a fact of life in medicine.

WALID GELLAD: There are conflicts with drug companies. There are conflicts with insurers. There are conflicts with hospitals, pharmacies. There are conflicts everywhere.

KODJAK: Gellad runs the Center for Pharmaceutical Policy and Prescribing at the University of Pittsburgh. He says disclosing financial ties should be standard practice, especially for people serving on decision-making boards.

GELLAD: At least they can be out on the open. If they’re hidden, they can’t be addressed.

KODJAK: And in Arizona at least those ties will be more transparent in the future. Alison Kodjak, NPR News. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.

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Alison Fitzgerald Kodjak is a health policy correspondent on NPR's Science Desk.

Her work focuses on the business and politics of health care and how those forces flow through to the general public. Her stories about drug prices, limits on insurance, and changes in Medicare and Medicaid appear on NPR's shows and in the Shots blog.

She joined NPR in September 2015 after a nearly two-decade career in print journalism, where she won several awards—including three George Polk Awards—as an economics, finance, and investigative reporter.

She spent two years at the Center for Public Integrity, leading projects in financial, telecom, and political reporting. Her first project at the Center, "After the Meltdown," was honored with the 2014 Polk Award for business reporting and the Society of Professional Journalists Sigma Delta Chi award.

Her work as both reporter and editor on the foreclosure crisis in Florida, on Warren Buffet's predatory mobile home businesses, and on the telecom industry were honored by several journalism organizations. She was part of the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists team that won the 2015 Polk Award for revealing offshore banking practices.

Prior to joining the Center, Fitzgerald Kodjak spent more than a decade at Bloomberg News, where she wrote about the convergence of politics, government, and economics. She interviewed chairs of the Federal Reserve and traveled the world with two U.S. Treasury secretaries.

And as part of Bloomberg's investigative team, she wrote about the bankruptcy of General Motors Corp. and the 2010 Gulf Oil Spill. She was part of a team at Bloomberg that successfully sued the Federal Reserve to release records of the 2008 bank bailouts, an effort that was honored with the 2009 George Polk Award. Her work on the international food price crisis in 2008 won her the Overseas Press Club's Malcolm Forbes Award.

Fitzgerald Kodjak and co-author Stanley Reed are authors of In Too Deep: BP and the Drilling Race that Took It Down, published in 2011 by John Wiley & Sons.

In January 2019, Fitzgerald Kodjak began her one-year term as the President of the National Press Club in Washington, DC.

She's a graduate of Georgetown University and Northwestern University's Medill School of Journalism.

She raises children and chickens in suburban Maryland.

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