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Habibi’s Rahill Jamalifard On Iranian Pop Music And ‘Anywhere But Here’

Habibi released its second album, Anywhere But Here, last month. The band's sound is heavily influenced by the Iranian psychedelic music lead singer Rahill Jamalifard listened to growing up.
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Habibi released its second album, Anywhere But Here, last month. The band's sound is heavily influenced by the Iranian psychedelic music lead singer Rahill Jamalifard listened to growing up.

Last month, Habibi released Anywhere But Here, the band’s first full-length album since its self-titled debut in 2014. Just like that first record and the EPs and singles over the past six years, the new album is full of Habibi’s signature mix of psychedelic rock and Iranian music.

For Rahill Jamalifard, Habibi’s lead singer and a daughter of Iranian immigrants, the group’s sound has a deeper meaning: It’s a way to honor her roots and pay tribute to the experimental culture that produced Iranian pop music in the 1960s and ’70s. Jamalifard says that Habibi got its start when she bonded with musician and future bandmate Lenny Lynch over a shared love of that era of Middle Eastern psychedelia.

“It was just wild to me, because I know record collectors, I know all these people who love that sound, but for somebody who’s my age, clearly white, and knew Iranian musicians that I loved, it was so amazing,” she says “Because now there are a bunch of reissues of old Iranian psych and pop music, but at the time there wasn’t as many and they weren’t uploaded to YouTube.”

NPR’s Michel Martin spoke to Rahill Jamalifard about Middle Eastern psychedelic rock, her growing comfort as a musician since the last Habibi album and keeping in contact with her family in Iran, a country which has been particularly impacted by the coronavirus. Listen in the player above and read on for highlights of the interview.


Interview Highlights

On the origin of Habibi and using an Arab word for the band’s name

The band started almost eight years ago now. I started it with one of my closest friends at the time — and still now — Lenny, and we’re both from Michigan, which has a very large Middle Eastern population, especially Arab population. So we both are very well-versed, me being Iranian and having gone to the mosque, I’ve been around more Arabs in my life than I have Iranians. And her friends, growing up on her street in her community, were all Arabs.

When we met in New York, we both shared this love of the culture and for the band’s sake, this love of the music that came from this time. So the foundation was built from both of our backgrounds and both of our unique relationships to that culture.

[Habibi] is an Arabic word. It’s pretty universal, though; like, my dad uses it. It means “my love,” but it’s more a term of endearment. You can say it to your love, but you can also say it to grocery store owners. In New York, for example, they call you habibi at the counter when you come up. So it’s just a term of endearment, an affectionate term.


On using Middle Eastern influences to make their own sound

I grew up in a house where we didn’t have cable. The real access to music — I was the oldest, so it was through my parents. And they had these amazing old VHS tapes of television programs from the ’70s and ’80s, and ’60s. I grew up watching those, and also listening to my dad’s tapes. I just remember from a very young age becoming obsessed with the tapes, watching the tapes, learning the dance moves, singing all the songs.

The song “Come My Habibi”: It was the first song we ever wrote together. Lenny and I, at the time, were obsessed with psychedelic music from Turkey and Iran. Just based on that alone, that really struck me about Lenny. When she came to New York, she was super encouraging of “Well, we both love this kind of music; we should do something that honors that sound.”

On the inspiration behind “Mountain Song” and how her extended family in Iran are coping during the pandemic

My grandfather loved the old poets, so he knew all of Hafez and Saadi and Rumi. He could recite all of their poems. When I try to write, sometimes overtly, I’m trying to reference these poets — but obviously in a less, less, less amazing way because I could never touch where they all are. But for that song especially, I wanted to write something beautiful that took you somewhere else and sounded more poetic. All of those lyrics, they have significant meaning to me, but as someone listening to it, they could inspire so many different things.

I’ve been speaking to them most every day, just to my cousins and checking in on them. I have a lot of elders so it’s very, very scary, but luckily for now I know my family is safe, and they’re staying home. But it is a time of great struggle there. And especially with the sanctions, not being able to have access to medicine and humanitarian aid: It’s really scary and heartbreaking to know there could be preventable deaths. I mean everywhere, it’s not just there, but there is particularly a very bad situation.

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Michel Martin is the weekend host of All Things Considered and host of the Consider This Saturday podcast, where she draws on her deep reporting and interviewing experience to dig in to the week's news. Outside the studio, she has also hosted "Michel Martin: Going There," an ambitious live event series in collaboration with Member Stations.

Martin came to NPR in 2006 and launched Tell Me More, a one-hour daily NPR news and talk show that aired on NPR stations nationwide from 2007-2014 and dipped into thousands of important conversations taking place in the corridors of power, but also in houses of worship, and barber shops and beauty shops, at PTA meetings, town halls, and at the kitchen table.

She has spent more than 25 years as a journalist — first in print with major newspapers and then in television. Tell Me More marked her debut as a full-time public radio show host. Martin says, "What makes public radio special is that it's got both intimacy and reach all at once. For the cost of a phone call, I can take you around the world. But I'm right there with you in your car, in your living room or kitchen or office, in your iPod. Radio itself is an incredible tool and when you combine that with the global resources of NPR plus the commitment to quality, responsibility and civility, it's an unbeatable combination."

Martin has also served as contributor and substitute host for NPR newsmagazines and talk shows, including Talk of the Nation and News & Notes.

Martin joined NPR from ABC News, where she worked since 1992. She served as correspondent for Nightline from 1996 to 2006, reporting on such subjects as the congressional budget battles, the U.S. embassy bombings in Africa, racial profiling and the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. At ABC, she also contributed to numerous programs and specials, including the network's award-winning coverage of Sept. 11, a documentary on the Anita Hill-Clarence Thomas controversy, a critically acclaimed AIDS special and reports for the ongoing series "America in Black and White." Martin reported for the ABC newsmagazine Day One, winning an Emmy for her coverage of the international campaign to ban the use of landmines, and was a regular panelist on This Week with George Stephanopoulos. She also hosted the 13-episode series Life 360, an innovative program partnership between Oregon Public Broadcasting and Nightline incorporating documentary film, performance and personal narrative; it aired on public television stations across the country.

Before joining ABC, Martin covered state and local politics for the Washington Post and national politics and policy at the Wall Street Journal, where she was White House correspondent. She has also been a regular panelist on the PBS series Washington Week and a contributor to NOW with Bill Moyers.

Martin has been honored by numerous organizations, including the Candace Award for Communications from The National Coalition of 100 Black Women, the Joan Barone Award for Excellence in Washington-based National Affairs/Public Policy Broadcasting from the Radio and Television Correspondents' Association and a 2002 Silver Gavel Award, given by the American Bar Association. Along with her Emmy award, she received three additional Emmy nominations, including one with WNYC's Robert Krulwich, at the time an ABC contributor as well, for an ABC News program examining children's racial attitudes. In 2019, Martin was elected into the American Academy of Arts and Sciences for outstanding achievement in journalism. She is the 2021 recipient of PMJA's 2021 Leo C. Lee Award.

A native of Brooklyn, N.Y., Martin graduated cum laude from Radcliffe College at Harvard University in 1980 and earned a Master of Arts from the Wesley Theological Seminary in 2016.

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