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'SNL' Star Bowen Yang Discusses Diversity, Queer Identity On Show


"Saturday Night Live" debuted its new season over the weekend in-studio. Jim Carrey played Joe Biden, who met Alec Baldwin's President Trump for a debate and brought a tape measure to be sure they were very far apart. The cast of "SNL" includes Bowen Yang. Last year, he became the show's first Chinese American cast member and one of the few openly gay cast members in "SNL" history. He spoke with NPR's Sam Sanders.


SAM SANDERS: For a few months this year, the cast of "SNL," like a lot of us, was working from home. The final episodes of their last season had the cast doing their own lighting, green screens in their apartments. These episodes looked like a Zoom call. Bowen Yang was a part of those shows. Here's his review of one of those sketches.

BOWEN YANG: I'm just going to be pretty hard-line and say that it was bad. Like, the comedy suffered.

SANDERS: But no more. The new season of "SNL" premiered this past weekend. And the team was together in-person.

I'm so curious...

YANG: Yeah.

SANDERS: ...About how y'all pulled this off in the midst of a pandemic.

YANG: I'm curious, too.

SANDERS: (Laughter).

YANG: I mean, I'm like, it's all going to be like a Schrodinger's cat...

SANDERS: (Laughter).

YANG: ...Situation, even for me, where it's like, we won't know if the cat's alive or dead until we open the box.

SANDERS: (Laughter).

YANG: But, no, I think it'll be great.

SANDERS: Bowen Yang, for his part, did pretty great. He brought back his character Chen Biao, the snarky, Chinese trade minister.


YANG: (As Chen Biao) OK. You're worried we're stealing your identity?

MICHAEL CHE: I mean...

YANG: (As Chen Biao) Honey, your phone unlocks with your face.


SANDERS: Bowen Yang began at "SNL" in 2018 as a writer. By the next season, he was in front of the camera. He's played Kim Jong Un...


YANG: (As Kim Jong Un) What? That's like saying democracy is better than dictatorship. That's the kind of talk that get you poisoned, bro.

CHE: ...And presidential candidate Andrew Yang...


YANG: (As Andrew Yang) I'm literally giving free money to people and I'm still in sixth place.

SANDERS: ...Impressions made possible by his Asian identity. But Bowen has also had some really successful sketches rooted in being queer, like the one where he plays a former social media manager for the food corporation Sara Lee. He gets in trouble for posting too much from his personal life.


YANG: (As character) Yes, I did write this. Wow. OK. (Reading) Security downstairs stopped letting people into harness party at Sara Lee office. We have to do better. Must get rid of toxic in the community.


SANDERS: These sketches, they have expanded the kinds of comedy "SNL" can do. And they've been incredibly popular. But Bowen doesn't want you to really see them as anything out of the ordinary.

YANG: The more you see this, the more you'll get used to it. At this point, I'm just like, oh, I would love for there just to be a normal, mid-frequency response to you seeing a queer, Asian person on camera being queer and Asian...


YANG: ...Without digging into the politics behind - well, that's all they can do, like, that's all Bowen does is be queer and Asian or - in the same way that you don't sort of remark on the fact that a straight, white, cis cast member would come on, and that you don't assign those descriptors onto them in their performance.

SANDERS: And so Bowen says, this season, he's maybe focused a bit less on what the audience actually thinks.

YANG: I kind of don't really care about how my tenure on the show is perceived in any particular way other than the fact that I want this to be - I want this to facilitate something better for the next person. Like, that's kind of, like, the only duty I'm bound to...

SANDERS: I love that. I love that.

YANG: ...On the show at this point.

SANDERS: This season of "SNL," you will most likely see Bowen Yang a lot. He will most likely make you laugh, but just know he's not really doing it for you.

Sam Sanders, NPR News.


INSKEEP: Hear more of Sam's talk with Bowen Yang, where he says "Grey's Anatomy" may have inspired his whole career, on Sam's excellent podcast It's Been A Minute from NPR. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.

Sam Sanders
Sam Sanders is a correspondent and host of It's Been a Minute with Sam Sanders at NPR. In the show, Sanders engages with journalists, actors, musicians, and listeners to gain the kind of understanding about news and popular culture that can only be reached through conversation. The podcast releases two episodes each week: a "deep dive" interview on Tuesdays, as well as a Friday wrap of the week's news.
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